Since we were talking about Na-channels in the last podcast, Sean Smith suggested this video:
You just read the post: Vaughan Williams Video from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
Since we were talking about Na-channels in the last podcast, Sean Smith suggested this video:
You just read the post: Vaughan Williams Video from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
I had a crazy case of Tricyclic Overdose while on an overnight shift at Janus General.
Additionally…
And of course, the non-TCA agents…
| K+ Channel Blockade | QTC Prolongation |
| NE & Serotonin Reuptake Inhibition | Initial hypertension quickly followed by hypotension |
| Na+ Channel Blockade | QRS Prolongation Hypotension — depresses myocardial contractility Ventricular dysrhythmias Brugada-like findings on EKG |
| Muscarinic Anticholinergic Receptor Antagonism | Anticholinergic Toxidrome |
| Antihistaminergic | CNS stimulation or sedation |
| Alpha1 Adrenergic Antagonism | Hypotension |
| GABA-A Receptor Blockade | Seizures |
This chart was taken from the excellent Resus Review Blog by Charles Bruen
Increases amount of drug in non-ionized form and may decrease binding to Na-channels [1]
May need many, many amps. For some reason the sodium and the bicarb don’t rise significantly in severe toxicity
My goals are QRS duration <100, hemodynamically stable, Na ~150, pH ~7.5
Beware of hypokalemia and hypocalcemia
Send VBG with lytes at least Q1 hour
To promote alkalosis
If the patient is too alkalotic or out of amps of Bicarb
Sodium Acetate
Can substitute for NaBicarb. This article gives dosing recommendations and precautions. [2]
Be very careful the patient doesn’t become hypercapneic
Sedate with benzo or propofol to raise seizure threshold
If time of ingestion <1 hour ago and airway is protected
We use a commercial device: the Easi-Lav system
May help, though risk of Torsades is low as long as the patient remains tachycardic
Even though lidocaine is another Na-Channel Blocker, it actually antagonizes the effects of the TCA-like mediciations. As a Vaughan Williams Class IB agent, For additional information, this review discusses the pertinent issues.[3]
Norepi or Epi
Certainly for cardiac arrest and probably for hypotension/increasing pressor necessity
For this or any other Lipid Question, you need to go immediately to the Lipid Rescue Site
You can find the Lipid Administration Instruction Sheet there, which should be hanging somewhere on the wall of your ED.
The last resort for tox instability
My friends Sean Nordt and Stu Swadron did a great EM:RAP episode on this 2 months ago
Here is a review and guideline article.
Medcalc sent me some freebie codes for their new IOS version of the app. Join the mailing list to be in the running (see the area below to sign up for the mailing list)
Daren Lewis of leadingvisually.com designed the wonderful Janus General logo; consider him if you need any message design.
You just read the post: Podcast 98 – Cyclic (Tricyclic) Antidepressant Overdose from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
Janus General is a virtual hospital where I will set all of my future cases. The inspiration for a virtual hospital comes from my friends at the St. Emlyn’s Blog.
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Just returned from Castlefest 2013–best ultrasound conference ever!
So last podcast, I bashed on sodium bicarbonate or as John Kellum and David Story call it: chloride-free sodium. This episode I talk about all the good reasons to use NaBicarb.
Owen, an anaesthesia registrar, wrote with this comment:
[...On increasing minute ventilation on vented patients with any bicarb given: Great idea and probably what most of us do, but even if you don't then with each breath the patient will be getting rid of more CO2 than previously so there should be more weak acid loss.]
This is one of those situations where I was gobsmacked for a second. When I started to think about this, it seemed intuitively wrong and yet conceptually right. I knew I needed to find someone far smarter than me. I reached out to Mel Herbert, who recommended David Story. Dr Story is Chair of Anaesthesia at the Melbourne Medical School and a physiology god. Here is his response:
Dr. Story, Here is the quandary. As you saw, I did that acid-base show with Dr. Kellum discussing NaBicarb use for the critically ill. Both Dr. Kellum and I believe and the evidence bares out that in a patient who can’t get rid of the excess CO2, there will be negligible changes in pH from the bicarb administration.Now in an apneic patient, I think this is inarguable. However, in a mech. ventilated patient with no resp drive (let’s say a pt we gave NMBs to), I perpetrated the situation would be the same. In response of my listeners brought up this question: If the minute ventilation is kept the same, but the ETCO2 rises (and by extension, the return of CO2 to the alveoli), this would seem to indicate that each breath is actually eliminating more CO2. Say the ETCO2 went from 40 to 80 with the same Vt. Is more CO2 being eliminated and if so, would this alone clear the transitory excess CO2 from the bicarb? This made me think of the opioid overdose patient. As their CO2 rises, are they too eliminating more CO2 with each of their breaths? My cursory understanding has always been simply that CO2 elimination is directly proportional to minute ventilation. That is what i took from West and never really gave it much thought. Now I am thinking and it is puzzling. –Scott
Response from Dr. Story: I agree it is confusing but this is how I see it. I wrote a letter the Anesthesiology years ago on a related topic.
The short answer is it is all relative.
The universal alveolar air equation for any gas (x) is:
PAx = PIx +/- Vx / VA; where PA is alveolar partial pressure, Vx is production or consumption of the gasFor an excreted gas like CO2 this will be:
PACO2 = PICO2 + K (VCO2 / VA)The constant is due to VCO2 being STPD and VA being BTPS and is about 800 if you are using mmHg and ml/min.
So usually PACO2 = 40, PIcO2 = 0, VCO2 = 250 ml/min and VA = 5,000 ml / min (10 X 500ml)
Also PACO2 is directly proportional to VCO2 and inversely to Va.
Now if we give NaBic and Bic forms CO2 VCO2 will increase. If it went up 50% it would be from 250 ml / min to 375 ml / min. If VA is fixed then
PACO2 = 800 X 375 / 5,000 = 60 mmHgHowever I agree that Va will go up which will be due to the increase in VCO2, ie the EXPIRED VA will increase
(inspired unlikey = expired when VO2 does not equal VCO2, that is the respiratory exchange ratio does not equal 1, that is what the F in the alveolar gas equation corrects)
Therefore the VA is now 5,125 ml / min
PACO2 = 800 (375 / 5,125) = 58.5 mmHg.
We have had a 50% increase in VCO2 but only a 2.5% increase in VA this will lead to a new equilibrium point in alveolar and arterial CO2 at around 58mmHg.
I have exaggerated the effects of NaBic or as I call it chloride-free sodium to demonstrate the effects as I see it.
Therefore, yes the alveolar ventilation increases due to greater CO2 excretion but it is a relatively small effect on VA. To reduce the PACO2 back to 40 will require a 50% increase in VA. This will be transient as the VCO2 returns to the rate prior to the NaBic infusion.
I hope the above helps. If not let me know.
Cheers
Dave Story
So what do I take from all of that? I think regardless of any increase in minute ventilation, the CO2 will eventually go back to baseline after an adminsitration of sodium bicarbonate and you will see the alkalizing effect, but unless you increase the minute ventilation it will take much longer.
If not stored in glass, bicarb containing solutions exchange CO2 and become not so much bicarbonate.
NaBicarb can be used as a substitute for hypertonic saline in increased ICP (Neurocrit Care 2010;13:24 & Neurocrit Care 2011;15:42). They used 85 ml of 8.4% sodium bicarb infused over 30 minutes.
You just read the post: Podcast 97 – Acid-Base VI – Chloride-Free Sodium from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
MDCalc is where I go when I need to remember a clinical scoring system. I was thus quite pleased to find one of the scores I use every shift appear on the site. The LLS score is how I determine the need for many interventions, but especially to decide who needs massive transfusion.
You just read the post: The LLS Score from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
This is Part V of the EMCrit Acid-Base Talks. If you haven’t listened to the initial series, you may be better off starting there:
Today’s topic comes from a debate I have been having with Steve Smith of the amazing EKG Blog. The main thrust of the debate started with this question…
When you can adjust PaCO2 to maintain a certain value (i.e. you increase minute ventilation), bicarb will lower pH as evidenced by this animal study (Crit Care Med 1996; 24:827-834). However, if you can’t blow off the CO2 then the effects on pH will not be there (J Pediatr 1977;91(2):287).
In this study, NaBicarb did not correct the pH, while CarbiCarb did (Carbicarb: an effective substitute for NaHCO3 for the treatment of acidosis. (Surgery 102:835–839).
This review article recommends against bicarb for permissive hypercapnia (Intensive Care Med (2004) 30:347–356).
This study furthers the idea that NaBicarb is not all that great in closed systems (J Pediatr 1972;80(4):671) and then this discussion explores all of the biochemical reasons why administering bicarbonate as a rapid push in a closed system is a bad idea (J Pediatr. 1972 Apr;80(4):681-2.).
Here is a quote from another review article (Anesthesiology 1990;72(6):1064):
The key concept in the equation [above] is that pH is not related to the absolute value of either bicarbonate concentration nor PCo2, but rather to their ratio.
When exogenous bicarbonate is administered during acidemia, bicarbonate reacts with hydrogen ions to form carbonic acid. Physicochemical equilibrium is shifted, favoring dissociation of carbonic acid to C02 and water. C02 partial pressure increases. The degree of alkaliniza- tion resulting from increased [HC03“] is limited by the rise in Pco2* In (open) systems where increases in PCo2 are prevented (by ventilation) alkalination occurs. When CO2 cannot be eliminated, the pH of the system is only minimally changed. Ostrea and Odel demonstrated in vitro that when isotonic sodium bicarbonate was added to whole blood in a (closed) system where generated C02 could not escape, PCo2 increased and pH was unchanged. Only when C02 was eliminated was the system alkalinized. Similarly, Steichen and Kleinman noted in hypoxic acidotic dogs that administration of 2 mEq/kg of sodium bicarbonate over 3 min when ventilation was unchanged resulted in no net change in arterial pH, although PaCo2 rose from 46 to 61 mmHg. If C02 elimination cannot keep pace with increased C02 generation, administration of bicarbonate during acidemia produces hypercarbia (respiratory acidosis) with little net improvement in pH.
How about this quote from a strong-ion approach to the use of buffers (Crit Care 2004;8:259):
When ventilation is fixed, however, as commonly occurs in mechanically ventilated patients, the effect of sodium bicarbonate may be to lower arterial pH, as was seen in patients ventilated with a lung protective strategy… [in this study-Am J Resp Crit Care Med 2000;161:1149].
I got to interview John Kellum, MD, master of all things acid-base in the critically ill. You’ll hear more from him in upcoming episodes; this time I asked him the following questions:
Probably not!
Advocates of NaBicarb discuss its salutary effects on hemodynamics. However based on the available evidence, there is no reason to think there is any additional effects above those you would see giving hypertonic saline.
Small head-to-head study of NaBicarb and NS showed deleterious effects of the Bicarb (Am J Med. 1989 Jul;87(1):7-14.)
One of the best reviews is by Forsythe and Schmidt in this article (Chest 2000; 117:260–267). Table 1 demonstrating the intracellular effects is particularly relevant.
The other is by Hindman et al. (Anesthesiology 1990;72(6):1064).
If you are going to use it, use it by slow infusion while increasing minute ventilation. Boyd et al. agree and say it better than I can (Curr Opin in Crit Care 2008;14:379).
Not fantastic evidence, but in this recent trauma paper (J Trauma 2013;74:45) giving bicarb to severely acidotic patients was associated with increased mortality.
New York Symposium on Neurological Emergencies and Neurocritical Care
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[2] Bersin RM, Chatterjee, K, Arieff, AI. Metabolic and hemodynamic consequences of sodium bicarbonate administration in patients with heart disease. The American journal of medicine. 1989;87: 7-14.
[3] Boyd JH, Walley, KR. Is there a role for sodium bicarbonate in treating lactic acidosis from shock? Current opinion in critical care. 2008;14: 379-383.
[4] Cuhaci B, Lee, J, Ahmed, Z. Sodium bicarbonate controversy in lactic acidosis. Chest. 2000;118: 882-884.
[5] Dell RB. Acid-base effects of hypertonic sodium bicarbonate solutions: a commentary. The Journal of pediatrics. 1972;80: 681-682.
[6] Forsythe SM, Schmidt, GA. Sodium bicarbonate for the treatment of lactic acidosis. Chest. 2000;117: 260-267.
[7] Gehlbach BK, Schmidt, GA. Bench-to-bedside review: treating acid-base abnormalities in the intensive care unit – the role of buffers. Critical care. 2004;8: 259-265.
[8] Hindman BJ. Sodium bicarbonate in the treatment of subtypes of acute lactic acidosis: physiologic considerations. Anesthesiology. 1990;72: 1064-1076.
[9] Kallet RH, Jasmer, RM, Luce, JM, et al. The treatment of acidosis in acute lung injury with tris-hydroxymethyl aminomethane (THAM). American journal of respiratory and critical care medicine. 2000;161: 1149-1153.
[10] Omron EM, Omron, RM. A physicochemical model of crystalloid infusion on acid-base status. Journal of intensive care medicine. 2010;25: 271-280.
[11] Ostrea EM. The influence of bicarbonate administration on blood pH in a “closed system”: clinical implications. The Journal of pediatrics. 1972;80: 671-680.
[12] Rhee KH, Toro, LO, McDonald, GG, et al. Carbicarb, sodium bicarbonate, and sodium chloride in hypoxic lactic acidosis. Effect on arterial blood gases, lactate concentrations, hemodynamic variables, and myocardial intracellular pH. Chest. 1993;104: 913-918.
[13] Steichen JJ, Kleinman, LI. Studies in acid-base balance. I. Effect of alkali therapy in newborn dogs with mechanically fixed ventilation. The Journal of pediatrics. 1977;91: 287-291.
[14] Wilson RF, Spencer, AR, Tyburski, JG, et al. Bicarbonate therapy in severely acidotic trauma patients increases mortality. The journal of trauma and acute care surgery. 2013;74: 45-50; discussion 50.
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Thomas Scalea is a legend! He is Physician-in-chief at the Shock Trauma Center in Balitmore. He started the EM program at Kings County in 1991. He is also an excellent doctor and a wonderful person. At the 2012 EMCrit Conference, he gave an amazing lecture on the cutting edge techniques they are using at Shock Trauma for intracranial pressure (ICP) management.
For the basics of ICP Management, check out this prior podcast.
Here is a pdf of Dr. Scalea’s Slideset
Need just the mp3? Right-click here and choose save-as.
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I recently got an email from the creators of a new approach to airway management
What these two gentlemen have crafted is a paradigm called the vortex approach. It is best represented by this diagram:
And here are versions with even more information:
I could write about the method, but to do it true justice, it is better to watch this video:
Now you folks know I am partial to a modified-version of the Shock Trauma Algorithm for Failed Airway Management. It is bar none the simplest, most effective (and validated) algo I have come across. Or at least it was until I started parsing the Vortex Approach. The reason is that the Vortex Approach encompasses the STC algorithm in a way that is universal to all specialties and settings.
Nicholas and Peter wrote a free ebook about the concept, which is available in a number of formats.
They also have a website set up for the Vortex Approach as well as other projects on their Clinical CrEd Site. The Vortex site also has videos demonstrating the approach in action in both an emergency department and operating theater intubation.
Minh Le Cong did an interview with the two of them on his PHARM podcast site that is definitely worth a listen.
I was sent free evaluation copies of 2 IOS applications:
You just read the post: EMCrit Wee – The Vortex Approach from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
My friend Chad Meyers is an ED Intensivist from NYC. He gave this lecture at ALLNYCEM 2012, but the video sucked. He rerecorded it for the EMCritters.
I will be bringing Roger Harris, MD of SMACC and Sydney ICU fame on the show in the very near future to debate this very issue.
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SMACC 2013 was, bar none, the best Critical Care Conference I have ever attended!
I got to meet people like…
Doug Lynch (@thetopend)
Victoria Brazil (@SocraticEM)
and Most Importantly,
to all of the wonderful listeners that introduced themselves–I Love You!
Great Article (CLEVELAND CLINIC JOURNAL OF MEDICINE 2011;78(10):675)
You just read the post: EMCrit WEE – SMACC 2013 Summary and Learning Points from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
Paul Mayo and I seem to have established a tradition of debating each other at the annual Greater NY Hospital Association Critical Care Controversies Conference.
Last year, we debated whether paralytics should be used for emergent intubations.
This year, the topic was Should All Intubations be Performed with Video Laryngoscopy?
I think you will enjoy the debate, because we don’t mind attacking our opponent.
If you enjoyed this podcast and the others on the EMCrit site, please consider supporting the show at CME.EMCrit.org.
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Cliff Reid adds to the MotR lexicon with Chicken Bombs and Muppet Factors
You just read the post: Mind of the Resuscitationist – Chicken Bombs and Muppet Factors from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
As you know, my motto is maximally aggressive care, ALWAYS! Maximally aggressive curative care and maximally aggressive palliative care. I did a podcast episode on critical care palliation a year or so ago.
At this year’s EMCrit Conference, Ashley Shreves gave the ultimate lecture on the topic. Twenty minutes jam-packed with goodness.
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You just read the post: Podcast 93 – Critical Care Palliation with Ashley Shreves from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
I received a distressed email from a fan who was dismayed that other residents in her program were bashing medical podcasting; this is my response.
You just read the post: EMCrit Wee – Tacit Knowledge and Medical Podcasting from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
At the EMCrit 2013 Conference we had a Blast Competition. The BLAST rules are easy:
The winner this year was Salil Bhandari with an incredible presentation on peri-mortem caesarean section.
Eur J Emerg Med. 2011 Aug;18(4):241-2. doi: 10.1097/MEJ.0b013e328344f2c5. Prehospital resuscitative hysterotomy.
The post Perimortem C-section at St.Emlyn’s appeared first on St Emlyns.
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If you have a comment or question about one of the podcasts, chuck it into the comments section.
But I get a ton of clinical cases and questions by email or the contact form that have not been covered on a podcast yet. I love this–it exposes me to some great cases I would never hear about otherwise. Problem is, up until this point, it has been a 1 on 1 conversation. This is sort of a waste because nobody else benefits except you and me. So in the future, when you have a case or question like this, I would love it if you posted to the Google Plus EMCrit Community page. This allows a few things:
So how do you do it? Easiest way to learn is to watch this video:
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Since Peter Pronovost’s landmark study on how a simple checklist can nearly abolish central line infections, checklists have been the darling of the medical literature. But central lines generally are for elective procedures, allowing us the time and patience to run through the list. Can we gain the same safety and cognitive benefits in an adrenaline-laden procedure like intubation? Hell yeah!
Here is the wee on the HOp Killers: Hemodynamic Kills, Oxygenation Kills, and pH Kills
from AirwayCam Site
The Checklist Project and their Checklist for Checklists
Shoulders of giants and such
Finally… The EMCrit Call/Response VodCast is done. Podcast 92: emcrit.org/podcasts/emcri… Now tear it apart and make it better!
— Scott Weingart (@emcrit) February 5, 2013
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A listener, Brian Katan, wrote to suggest adding ondansetron to the awake intubation procedure. Now this is interesting, because I don’t want the patient to vomit from ramming things into the back of her throat, but the mechanism is not nausea–it is the gag reflex. So, the question is: does ondansetron affect the gag reflex? Turns out it does…
So now, ondansetron 4 mg IVP has been added to the airway checklist. Thanks Brian!
You just read the post: Ondanestron for Awake Intubation from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
My friend Chris Bond runs a blog called SOCMOB (see below for an explanation).
Like all Canadians, Chris likes to have a nice meal, drink a glass of wine, and then go to the parking lot, break a beer bottle and stab people with it. In Canada, they call this bottling. When not bottling, Chris posts on emergency medicine topics; he put together a video on how to build a cheap and dirty cric trainer. Take a look…
Here is the original SOBMOB post.
The trainer is based on this article: (Anaesthesia 2004; 59:1012–15).
A recent letter to the editor takes the model even further: (Anaesthesia, 2009, 64, pages 687–697).
Chris is also the creator of the, “Diagnosis Wenckebach” video:
SOCMOB = Standing on the corner, minding my own business. For any of you who work in emergency departments, you’ve likely heard this history before. Most likely the presenting complaint was trauma

You just read the post: How to Build the Ultimate Cricothyrotomy Trainer with Chris Bond from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
The American Society of Anesthesia just released their new difficult airway guidelines. Of course, I’ll be reviewing them on the Practical Evidence Podcast.
Those guidelines are a bit too involved for Emergency Medicine and Intensive Care. For us, I recommend the Shock Trauma Algorithm. I modified it somewhat to fit my own prejudices (as usual).
The approach was validated in this study:
[Stephens CT, Kahntroff S, Dutton RP. The success of emergency endotracheal intubation in trauma patients: a 10-year experience at a major adult trauma referral center. Anesth Analg. 2009 Sep;109(3):866-72.]
Couldn’t be easier to remember and use.
You just read the post: Shock Trauma Center Failed Airway Algorithm from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
This podcast was originally posted on the Practical Evidence Podcast
The 2012 SSC Guidelines were just published and I saw the preview in Puerto Rico
See the Guidelines at (CCM 2013;41(2):580)
A history of the evolution of SSC recommendations as to rhAPC (no longer available) is provided.
You just read the post: 2012 Surviving Sepsis Campaign Guidelines from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
See the esmolol drip sheet (YOU MUST CHECK ALL NUMBERS WITH YOUR OWN PHARMACY)
With in order of preference: clevidipine, nicardipine, nitroprusside, nitroglycerin
Andy Neill thankfully addressed my erroneous assumption that MIs in Dissection would only be right coronary infarctions
Does an anterior STEMI rule out dissection? – Emergency Medicine Ireland
and check out this article as well (J Emerg Trauma Shock 2011;4:273-278)
Do a high-icp/vascular intubation (More to come on this)
(1) SMACC CLUB
http://lifeinthefastlane.com/
(2) PK SMACC-talks (the deadline has been extended)
http://smacc.net.au/pk-smacc-
entries so far: http://smacc.net.au/category/
You just read the post: Treatment of Aortic Dissection from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
Monday’s show will be on aortic dissection. The show two weeks from now will be a unveiling and discussion of an intubation checklist I have been working on for the past couple of months. I wanted to send it out early to get comments and see if you folks can find anything that can be corrected.
It is a call/response checklist. The idea is only the top half of page 1 would actually be used during the intubation and the checklist should be folded in half to reduce cognitive load. It has been inspired by the incredible work of the safer intubation project and emupdate’s EDICT sheet.
Let me know your thoughts…
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Cliff Reid is the prototypical resuscitationist; he rocks! He has discussed his philosophies on previous episodes:
And of course, Cliff’s blog, resus.me, is some of the best retrieval and resuscitation information around.
I brought Cliff up to speak in my Critical Care Track at the 2012 Essentials of Emergency Medicine. Mel Herbert was kind enough to give me permission to post the lecture here. I think you’ll love it as much as I do.
You just read the post: Podcast 90 – Mind of the Resuscitationist Series: Cliff Reid’s Own the Resus Room from EMCrit Blog - Emergency Department Critical Care.
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Hi Scott
Merry Christmas. So here I am sitting here sipping my coffee on a quiet Christmas morning and I’m writing YOU a complete stranger, a Christmas email. Well not a complete stranger but you can tell how obsessed I am with airway stuff when I’m writing this on Christmas morning! Besides this is one of the few quiet moments I’ve had in many months to collects some thoughts before the troops wake up. I started writing you this email a while back but some how erased it and haven’t gotten back to it. In any case kudos to you for keeping up the stellar podcasts. I really like how you have aligned yourselves with other outstanding minds in our field and created a more or less free forum to put out some incredible educational points for Crit Care and ER medicine.
One of my pet peeves is getting people to really understand the real benefits and proper technique of VL. I’ve seen and heard some of your stuff on this but I thought I’d chime in with a few of my tips and tricks that I teach on an airway course we give here in the Middle East called AIME. Originally designed and created by Adam Law an anaesthetist that hails from Canuck land. Adam has shared with me some invaluable tips in using the VL which just these subtle things can make this technique so easy anyone can do it first or second try.
One of the first things people need to understand is DL is LINE OF SIGHT. We have to have a STRAIGHT shot at the cords to be able to see and put the tube in. That’s why we align the oral and laryngeal axes. And that’s why we need to do the ears to sternal notch. WE CAN’t SEE AROUND CORNERS WE SEE IN STRAIGHT LINES. This is what the standard straight bougie was designed to help us with. So it drives me crazy when I’ve heard some people talk about using a regular bougie with VL. Yes it’s flexible but standard bougies don’t hold a bend, they’re meant to follow along the line of sight and be able to help us with those CL grade 2 and 3 views while doing DIRECT LARYNGOSCOPY (and yes I still teach that you should use it on grade I views to get the hang of it but really it’s for the later). The other thing that people must understand that it isn’t a “blind mans cane” for grade 4 views and shouldn’t be used as such. If all you see is tongue you don’t blindly kep shoving the bougie up and down hunting for clicks (sorry I know this is obvious to you but I’m just on a bit of a rant) . The last point is STANDARD BOUGIES AREN’T MEANT OR DESIGNED FOR VIDEO LARYNGOSCOPY. Ok you could argue that for a King vision or Pentax AWS a bougie is great to guide down the channel but that’s not what a lot of VL’s have and so a bougie is not the tool to use.
So ultimately VL is to look AROUND the corner and therefore we don’t have to just “slightly” extend the neck in trauma; something we’re all guilty of (just getting “that little bit more extension” to get the tube in). Alternatively someone stabilizes the neck while we do the Herculean lift to squish the tongue through the submandibular space to get our line of sight. So I think it was either Minh or Cliff who said that they really don’t use VL in the field yet, I really think they need to begin to see the benefits of this.
Almost all video laryngoscope blades are much more curved than standard mac blades. WHY? AGAIN It’s because they’re designed to LOOK AROUND THE CORNER! The only bougie that will help you with this (if you want to use a bougie) is I think the pocket bougie from Bomimed. Now I haven’t used the pocket bougie but from what I’ve seen on Jim Ducanto’s video it can be bent or is bent to go AROUND THE CORNER. This is the only bougie that I’ve seen that does this. Using a STANDARD bougie may work if you’re using a VL to do Direct laryngoscopy but again the blade wasn’t designed to help you to see directly, the flatter, less curved mac blade was. But if you load an ETT with a properly formed stylet in almost all cases you really don’t need a curved bougie with VL and especially NOT a straight bougie. I actually think we do our students a disservice by watching them do a DIRECT laryngoscopy while we watch on the Glidescope screen because the blade is so curved that the mechanics and placement of the VL blade tip in the Vallecula like you should with a regular mac blade are VERY different. Because a VL blade is so curved if you put it in the vallecula and pull in the direction of the handle like we teach with a regular mac blade, they are not pulling in the same direction as with a standard mac blade and I think that in a difficult scenario will at best won’t make things easier and at worse might injure the perilaryngeal structures. People should teach DL with a standard blade NOT a VL blade. Use the right tool for the application it was designed for.
The way I teach VL is as follows.
First and foremost you must use an introducer and that introducer needs to be bent exactly in the shape of the VL blade
Because both blade and tube are so curved some times it’s difficult to slide them in straight. I often tell the students to scissor their right index finger and thumb on upper and lower incisors respectively to open the mouth. Then with the blade handle pointed to 9 o clock, insert the blade. When the blade is towards the back of the tongue, rotate the handle to 12 o’clock. Now look at the screen as you slowly advance…
I agree with your “mouth, screen, mouth, screen” reminder to prevent injuries with blade and tube insertion.
I don’t tell students to get the blade tip in the vallecula like with DL, it just makes VL harder because then end up pulling the larynx to anterior which just compounds the problems of passing the tube. As you and I both know seeing the cords isn’t the problem, getting the tube in is. When students in their excitement of seeing that grade I view (often for the very first time!!) love to keep this view at the expense of making getting the tube in very difficult.
What I teach is a grade II view is all you need and is actually what you want. Once you get this, similar to inserting the blade you insert the tube with the long axis pointing to 3 o’clock and watch the tip go into the mouth and past the back of the tongue. Now look at the screen and keep advancing slowly. Once you can see a hint of plastic on the screen, rotate the tube to 12 o’clock and presto, the tube tip is right at the cords.
The last hold up is when they try and ram the tube and introducer in. Invariably the tube and introducer gets rammed into the anterior larynx. So the student needs to bring the tube tip to the cords and maybe just a little past. Have someone hold the introducer and continue to slide the tube off and down. If it gets hung up on the anterior larynx this is where the student can slowly twist the tube 90-180 degrees to pass the tube. Even watching Dr. Ducanto push the pocket bougie in with it’s big bend he gets hung up on his video and has to do the multiple twists with the bougie to get it to pass down the trachea.
So that’s my Christmas rant. I feel much better. Have a good one.
Cheers
Harold Shim
Harold, Great comments/teaching tips. I would say that we need to make a clear separation between the indirect vision video blades (Glidescope, CMAC D, etc.) and the standard/displacing blade shapes (Standard CMAC). In the latter, a standard bougie works just fine; for the former the pocket bougie seems to be the best thing out there.
let Harold and I know what you think
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