Tuberculosis at DFTB17

This talk was recorded live on the second day at DFTB17 in Brisbane. If you missed out in 2017 then why not book your leave for 2018 now. Tickets are on sale for the pre-conference workshops as well as the conference itself at

Claire Nourse is the Director of Paediatric Infection Management at the Mater Mother’s Hospital and an associate professor of Paediatrics at the University of Queensland. Having worked in many impoverished climes she reminds us of the global burden of TB before bringing it home to cases we might see in Australia.

If you want to read more about this prevalence of the problem in Australia then take a look at this paper.

Teo SS, Tay EL, Douglas P, Krause VL, Graham SM. The epidemiology of tuberculosis in children in Australia, 2003-2012. Med J Aust. 2015 Dec 14;203(11):440.

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Wake Up and Smell the tPA

What happens when you wake up and you’re paralyzed from a stroke? Well, usually nothing. “Unknown time of onset” takes you – for better or worse – out of the game for alteplase, but not necessarily for endovascular therapy should a large-vessel occlusion be identified. Those large vessel occlusions, in the setting of a favorable CT perfusion profile, seem to benefit from endovascular therapy.

But, getting back to the “wake up stroke” – these have had our neurologists gnashing their teeth for some time. They have hypothesized many of these strokes have occurred just before waking and might otherwise be eligible for treatment. Absent reliable presenting information regarding the time of onset, these authors look to MRI – using presence of DWI lesion without corresponding FLAIR signal as a surrogate for tissue viability/stroke recency. Exclusion criteria in addition to the usual alteplase culprits were extremes of age, premorbid functional disability, NIHSS >25, thrombectomy candidates, and those with infarct volumes greater than 1/3rd the MCA territory. The primary outcome was 0 or 1 on the mRS at 90 days, like most trials.

These authors in this multicenter, placebo-controlled planned to enroll 800 patients, but ran out of money after five years and 503 patients. To get to these 503, the authors needed to screen 1362 potential strokes. These 859 exclusions were for various reasons, but over half were because the FLAIR matched the DWI lesion – indicated a completed infarct. Another 137 had negative DWI – i.e., not stroke – and various others had hemorrhage, failed to meet criteria for infarct size, or a scattering of other exclusions. Even despite these exclusions, another 79 snuck through as protocol violations, including 48 who should have been excluded based on imaging criteria.

Now, the meat: About 95% of those included were of the “wake up” variety, nearly all from overnight sleep. Baseline clinical features were generally well-matched. Median NIHSS was 6 in each group, although median lesion volume on DWI was 2.0 mL in the alteplase cohort as compared to 2.5 with placebo. At 90 days, 53.3% of the alteplase cohort achieved an mRS of 0-1 as compared with 41.8% with placebo. Bleeding complications, as typical, favored the placebo cohort – with absolute advantages ranging from 1.6% to 3.6%, depending on the definition of hemorrhage used. Death at 90 days also favored placebo at 1.2% versus 4.1%.

It is difficult to know what to do with these data unless your system is specifically equipped to replicate the conditions of this trial with rapid MRI. Even then, there are some oddities and specific warnings to unpack. If adhering to this protocol, the majority of patients screened will not be eligible for treatment. The number of patients who had completed their infarction was similar to those who had DWI/FLAIR mismatch, and another third had other imaging or clinical findings excluding them from treatment. Incorporating MRI into workflow may not yet represent a high-value approach.

Then, the authors performed a pre-specified subgroup analysis stratifying based on NIHSS – and the 109 analyzed patients with a NIHSS >10 did terrible. Only 13.5% of those in the tPA cohort and 12.3% of those receiving placebo achieved mRS 0 or 1. Unpacking these stratifications further, the authors provide us a whole host of breakdowns:

Generally, not too much should be read into these secondary outcomes, but they are useful for generating equipoise for other investigations.  That said, these data should be at least a useful cautionary tale regarding the value of tPA in the setting of mild, but disabling stroke – as these 175 patients represent at least six times more patients than from NINDS, and are of higher quality evidence than any of the Get With the Guidelines publications trying to build the case for tPA in mild stroke.

One takeaway that should definitely not be generated from this is: “well, if there’s an absolute increase in good outcome of 12% on those screened with MRI, then treating all ‘wake up’ patients after screening with just CT could generate about a 6% absolute benefit, and that should be offered to patients.”  Unfortunately, I suspect we will hear such calls – probably based on parsing out the low NIHSS patients in the subgroups above, and trying to toss out the ~30% with a large-vessel occlusion identified on MRA as patients who should be triaged to endovascular.  Again, trying to pick and choose the secondary outcomes that suit your narrative is fraught with peril, and the fact remains such a treatment strategy is also likely to generate harms greater than those seen in this trial.  These data ought to have a very narrow application – but shareholders and executives don’t realized dividends when alteplase isn’t flying off the shelves for expanded indications.

“MRI-Guided Thrombolysis for Stroke with Unknown Time of Onset”

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